Talk:Tutorial/Mass-Fab Macerator/@comment-83.104.25.242-20121016095603/@comment-454133-20121020214705

I just did some tests, and if you're using a normal (instead of rotary) macerator then 20 minutes is probably expected.

As for feeling like you're cheating, a few people on the power flower tutorial expressed the same concern. It really comes down to how you're using the EMC. My friends and I love building crazy factories and refining them more and more to be more efficient, effective, productive, compact, etc. That's where we get the biggest kick out of Tekkit. Having MFMs generate EMC means materials won't be a bottleneck that slows down the fun (and it was really fun figuring out the best configurations for an MFM and refining the process). And we can do it without turning on cheat mode -- we used cleverness to solve a problem, so it didn't feel like cheating.

We also love games like Space Chem, which give a similar type of thrill.

My brother, on the other hand, likes to play survival-style, and being able to fabricate materials through sunlight or maceration feels like cheating to him. He feels like a diamond should remain scarce and not be duplicatable by condensing lumber or collecting sunlight. He doesn't enjoy making factories or figuring out crazy machines. He didn't like SpaceChem either. He wants to play a classic minecraft, even when it's modded, and our way of playing wouldn't be fun for him at all.

So you've got to identify where the fun is for you in the game, so you don't end up killing it.